滴水 发表于 2012-5-22 10:28:37

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-5-24 21:29 编辑

5月22日:今天上午咳出好多血,看得我害怕,吃了3颗云南白药好点了。
验血报告出来了,在电脑上看的,胆红素、血小板 、凝血都是正常的。那咳血是什么原因呢?今天才知道老爸从5月2日起一直在吃云南白药,最近停了6天。
血常规忘了看了,但医生有说过是正常的。
今天做了增强CT,报告要明天出来,今夜注定要辗转反侧了。。。


在CT报告出来前,无法区分是肿瘤进展了还是特罗凯的副作用,不管是哪种情况,都要停药

What are the possible side effects of Erlotinib?

Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficult breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.

Stop taking erlotinib and call your doctor at once if you have a serious side effect such as:
new or worsening lung problems such as chest pain, dry cough with fever, wheezing, rapid breathing, feeling short of breath
chest pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, general ill feeling
sudden numbness or weakness, sudden severe headache, or problems with vision, speech, or balance
eye pain, redness, or irritation
confusion, mood changes, increased thirst, urinating less than usual or not at all
swelling, rapid weight gain
severe or ongoing diarrhea, vomiting, or loss of appetite
black, bloody, or tarry stools
coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds
pale or yellowed skin, easy bruising, unusual bleeding (nose, mouth, vagina, or rectum), purple or red pinpoint spots under your skin
white patches or sores inside your mouth or on your lips
fever, sore throat, and headache with a severe blistering, peeling, and red skin rash
the first sign of any type of skin rash, no matter how mild; or
nausea, upper stomach pain, itching, dark urine, clay-colored stools, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes)

This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088.

每隔一阵子就会出现一个处理很棘手的状况

滴水 发表于 2012-5-22 21:30:56

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-5-22 23:02 编辑

后续打算:
1) CT示好转或稳定,则处理好咳血后继续用特,止疼药改成曲马多,用川贝枇杷膏处理肺热咳痰;
2) CT示进展,则用吉西他滨或多西他赛化疗2周期,然后改用2992;

上次最后一次化疗结束是去年11月16日,方案是紫杉醇+卡铂,3个月后进展;
考虑已经用过紫杉醇,这次如果要化疗,准备先用吉西他滨,敢不敢加顺铂? 还是就吉西他滨单药?目前体力尚可。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-23 09:53:11

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-5-24 15:20 编辑

5月22日的CT报告如图,肺部肿瘤稍微增大、后肋骨转加重(胸骨骨质破坏稍好转)、产生胸水和心包积液;

分析和教训:
1) 5月2日开始咳血,咳嗽增加,其实已经是有耐药的迹象了,但老爸人在老家,从未说过一直在吃云南白药;用镇咳药和云南白药盖住了症状,但盖不住肿瘤本身;
2)云南白药“可明显促进血管内皮生长因子(VEGF)的生成”,和抗肿瘤的方向背道而驰,临时止血可以,长期吃肯定不好;郁闷的是,在开始治疗前,还不能停。
3) 特不能说完全耐药,毕竟肿瘤增大幅度很小,但不能再等了,要化疗打压;没准以后还有机会上特;

周二开始天天和医院联系,要到周五下午才有床位,下周一开始治疗。我想还是下周一再去吧。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-23 10:00:25

tiger_sun_cn 发表于 2012-5-20 22:55 static/image/common/back.gif
祝福!
检查顺利!

感谢祝福!
这次CT出来很不好,进展了,特耐药了。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-23 17:18:02

请教大家后面的方案次序:
化疗还可以用泰索帝(多西他赛)、泽菲(吉西他滨)
靶向还可以用2992、凡德他尼
目前得先用化疗打压一下,然后该用什么次序呢?还有希望回到特罗凯吗?


184不敢用了,上次用了骨痛加重,副作用难以耐受(喝水都吐)、极度乏力;

滴水 发表于 2012-5-23 17:22:20

另外,第五后肋骨肿块变大,靠近脊髓,风险很大。2月份已经做过姑息放疗,特有效期间肿块退缩,现在不知道该怎么办了。
唑来膦酸每月一针,胸骨骨质破坏稍有好转,后肋骨却没有。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-23 21:58:08

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-5-25 16:54 编辑

有关凡德他尼,
1) 有效率不比厄洛替尼高,但副作用更明显。
In patients with previously treated advanced NSCLC, vandetanib showed antitumor activity but did not demonstrate an efficacy advantage compared with erlotinib. There was a higher incidence of some AEs with vandetanib.
2) 和吉非替尼比,对延长无进展生存期有利
The primary efficacy objective was achieved, with vandetanib demonstrating a significant prolongation of PFS versus gefitinib. Vandetanib 300 mg/d is currently being evaluated as a monotherapy in two randomized phase III studies in advanced NSCLC.
也有资料显示凡德他尼不能延长总生存期。

当然现在更关心特耐药后,凡德会不会有效。

已用过EGFR-TKI治疗的,凡德不能获益:
Vandetanib shows no benefit in advanced NSCLC patients previously treated with Epidermal Growth Factor Receptor Tyrosine Kinase inhibitors
http://www.nelm.nhs.uk/en/NeLM-Area/News/2012---February/29/Vandetanib-shows-no-benefit-in-advanced-NSCLC-patients-previously-treated-with-Epidermal-Growth-Factor-Receptor-Tyrosine-Kinase-inhibitors---/

不管怎样,试还是要试的。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-24 12:29:59

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-5-24 21:31 编辑

中位生存期S1+卡铂比紫杉醇+卡铂长:
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/92503918c281e53a5802ff02.html

TS低表达,S-1有效率才高;
培美也是这么说。

是不是TS低表达,S-1和培美都有可能有效?不管是鳞还是非鳞。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-24 21:22:02

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-6-10 01:27 编辑

KRAS突变,多吉美才比较靠谱?
Promising Lead on Potential Benefit of Nexavar (Sorafenib) for KRAS Mutation Positive NSCLC
http://cancergrace.org/lung/2010/05/01/sorafenib-for-kras-mutn-pos-nsclc/

补充几个结论:
1)临床试验亚组分析中,亚洲人群未能从西妥昔单抗联合化疗中获益。《肺癌化疗与靶向治疗》,廖美琳。
2) BATTLE的报告中,凡德对KRAS突变的有效率为0。
3) BATTLE报告中索拉菲尼对多种突变(EGFR、KRAS、VEGF、RXD/CycD1)和无以上突变的都有一定的有效率,尤其对KRAS突变有效率高达79%。
4) KRAS突变易腺癌为主,鳞的比较少,如果要试药,腺应该优先试用索拉菲尼(多吉美)。
5) 凡德总体有效率和厄洛替尼相当,但对KRAS突变、无其他突变的有效率为0,但厄洛替尼对KRAS突变、无突变都有一定的有效率。

滴水 发表于 2012-5-25 14:42:20

本帖最后由 滴水 于 2012-6-14 13:51 编辑

EGFR-TKI联合替吉奥的依据:
http://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/15/3/907.abstract
Results: Gefitinib induced down-regulation of thymidylate synthase and E2F-1 in gefitinib-resistant NSCLC cells with MET amplification but not in those harboring the T790M mutation of EGFR. The combination of 5-fluorouracil and gefitinib synergistically inhibited the proliferation of cells with MET amplification, but not that of those with the T790M mutation of EGFR, in vitro. Similarly, the combination of S-1 and gefitinib synergistically inhibited the growth only of NSCLC xenografts with MET amplification.

Conclusions: Our results suggest that the addition of S-1 to EGFR-TKIs is a promising strategy to overcome EGFR-TKI resistance in NSCLC with MET amplification.

事实上我们无法知道到底什么原因引起的EGFR-TKi耐药。此外鳞一般是TS高表达,如果变成了低表达,用S-1还不如用培美。
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